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They may not have had the chance to spar with Justice Scalia
or Justice Ginsburg, but it was the next best thing. On January
10, following the Supreme Court swearing in ceremony, members
of Council of Appellate Lawyers and others gathered at the
offices of Howrey Simon Arnold & White, and were reminded
that, while doing something yourself is always the best way
to learn, listening to those who have done it more often than
you is a close second. CAL convened a panel of star Supreme
Court advocates to share their experienceand advicein
practicing before the high court: Jerrold Ganzfried of Howrey
as moderator, with Donald Ayer of Jones Day, Edwin Kneedler
of the Solicitor General's office, and Richard Lazarus of
Georgetown University Law Center as panelists.
The discussion was set apart by what is becoming the hallmark
of CAL eventsa refusal to be another run-of-the-mill,
yawn-at-will legal seminar. Instead, the panelists offered
real-world insights, honed through their more than 130 collective
Supreme Court oral arguments, into appearing before the justices.
Donald Ayer spoke about how to prepare for an argument. He
explained that while an effective advocate will immerse herself
in preparation just as she would in any appellate case, in
the Supreme Court this immersion should usually last "for
ten days or so" and will need to be broad enough to prepare
the lawyer to field questions that might range from the topography
of the Arizona roads to the construction of a statutory provision
not directly implicated below. The purpose of this preparation,
Ayer explained, should not be just to know the case thoroughly,
but to be able to convey it in easily understandable, encapsulated
terms. "Walking through an outline is not going to work
in the Supreme Court," Ayer said. "What you want
are sound bites that you can deliver well."
Professor Lazarus, who discussed using moot courts, also
emphasized the importance of being able to quickly deliver
the core of your argument in the high court. "You have
to frontload your argument and deliver it in no more than
ten seconds," explained Lazarus. Lazarus also gave practical
tips for moot courts, based on his experience in directing
a moot court program at Georgetown that provides practice
runs for counsel in approximately two-thirds of the cases
before the Court. The effective moot should usually last about
an hour or two, take place about a week but no less than two
days before the argument, and use lawyers who have experience
appearing before the Court, rather than experts in the substantive
area or law professors. "Most law professors are generally
worthless for the moot court," Lazarus said because such
experts tend to focus on the arcane, while the Court tends
to seek the big picture.
The final panelist was Edwin Kneedler, who spoke on the argument
itself. Mr. Kneedler stressed that the best style for delivering
a Supreme Court argument is a conversational tone that the
advocate is personally comfortable with, though Kneedler advised
that telling jokes "almost never works" with the
justices. Kneedler also explained that it is imperative in
the argument that the advocate is "as familiar as possible"
with any statutes involved in the case, that he knows the
procedural posture of the case "inside and out,"
and that he always keep in mind "what's really at stake."
The consensus among those who attended the panel was that
it was time well spent. The panelists not only provided a
rare opportunity to receive expert advice on appearing before
the Supreme Court, but gave tips that translate to oral argument
in any court. "Suggestions like moving your eyes to another
justice in order to switch gears or avoid losing time on a
judge you know you can't win is not the kind of pointer you
get everyday," said Chuck Cole, current CAL Chair, after
attending the event. "This was sophisticated stuff."
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